Final Fantasy VII: So disappointing, I deleted it from my PS Vita

Posted on Oct 17 2012 - 10:42am by Jeffrey L. Wilson

final fantasy 7 cloud barret elevator1 Final Fantasy VII: So disappointing, I deleted it from my PS Vita

A few weeks ago I was eager to re-experience Final Fantasy VII after its release on PS Vita as a PSOne Classic. I report with no shame that I am unable to finish the game. It’s not due to Final Fantasy VII‘s difficulty or failing to understand the Materia system — the game isn’t worth my time.

I quit Final Fantasy VII shortly after exiting Midgar. Yes, I’ve heard it gets better. Yes, it’s still early in the game. My inner gamer whispers that I should forge ahead; that same gamer voice shouts that I should put the game down and pick up Ys Seven. I wavered for a bit until Terry Lewis, friend, head honcho at The Other View, and Final Fantasy VII die-hard mentioned that there’s a lot of silly fluff that he’d forgotten in the game until he too started playing through it recently. I figured that if he, a Final Fantasy VII superfan (or former superfan?) recognizes the silliness (snowboarding, dating scene), I should have no qualms in deleting the file from my memory card. Not that I needed that nudging, but still.

I understand what slighting Final Fantasy VII means in the online gaming community. It’s like questioning Jesus’ existence. Final Fantasy VII has been a point of contention among RPG fans since its 1997 debut, simultaneously being the best and most overrated series entry. That’s pretty remarkable, really. How many video games elicit such passion among its base? I understand both views, actually, as Final Fantasy VII is both a technical achievement and a hodge-podge of many bizarre and poorly planned elements that are memorable and disastrous.

The story is the main issue among many — I don’t care about the characters or their motivations. The lack of hooks led to a lack of interest. Plus, the stars all have the same voice, except for Barrett who oddly benefits by being a hilarious stereotype and/or Mr. T clone.

The problem with a bland RPG is this: If the story doesn’t intrigue, you have nothing to fall back on. Navigating menus isn’t fun. Neither is watching the same spell/attack animations for the twentieth time. The combat that I initially enjoyed has gone flat. An action game with a bad/goofy/ho-hum/average story, however, can overcome that flaw by delivering thrilling combat.

There’s no backup for Final Fantasy VII. Hence, there’s no reason to go on.

So where does this leave me and my relationship with Final Fantasy VII? I respect its importance in terms of drawing people into the role-playing genre; it’s the To The Extreme of RPGs, if you will. Final Fantasy VII is a work that carried a spark in its moment of shine, but ultimately isn’t something to be revisited lest you reveal its true dullness.

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  • kevin

    Was this you’re first time playing it??

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      No, sir. I played it in the ’90s and thought it was so bad that I put it down and didnt return until the Vita release. Now i respect it, despite feeling completely ho-hum toward it.

      • Kayoss860

        I have a feeling that there are a lot of factors that made you dislike this game.
        1. Graphics: we are so use to high render and detailed games in this day’n age that anything less then the standards would not worth our time. Yes this game was revolutionary when it was released but now when you compare this to any game today its like playing an atari game.
        2. This Generation of gamers want games that is fast paced and fun to play. reading text and dialogue is long gone and is replaced by voice over. FF7 is mostly story driven (as such with most RPG back in the 90′s) and maybe not enough actions. Who would want to sit through 30 hours of dialoge and text and only 5 hours of action?
        3. The thought of putting in countless hours in a game is not so attractive any more (for the exception of MMO and maybe COD). Just knowing that you still have 50 hours to go before you beat the game can cause any gamers to just outright quit. Because you dont have the patient for these type of game.
        I’m a die hard Final fantasy fan but when i tried going back to play FF7 the graphic and the slow pace really turned me off. Maybe that is why most fans are asking for a remake so that they can enjoy the game with improve graphics and maybe remove some content that was irrevalant to the story. I for one really want a remake.

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          My only real issue with the graphics, which I addressed in the first piece, is that they make it hard to navigate certain area. So that’s not really an issue. But you’re right, I’m finding it hard to devote double digit hours to a game nowadays…especially to one that’s lackluster.

          • http://www.facebook.com/stevevogelff7 Steve Vogel

            If you push L2 or R2, little triangles show where the exits are

          • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

            It wasn’t so much much exiting. Sometime it was tricky to see if you could, say, walk under the pipe or needed to walk around/climb it. Meh.

          • Platomaker

            I got the airship and submarine and couldn’t really figure out where to go since the story was left open ended at that point. If I was told where to go I might have over-read it but was essentially lost- that’s when I stopped playing. The materia system is nice, but there’s no incentive to switch out party members and the EXP is set (no matter who or how many people are in your party), so they streamlined the RPG elements. It had substance but relied heavily on style.

  • spacexgost

    You just barely got out of Midgar (10% complete) and you feel qualified to judge the narrative? Pardon me if this feels like a lacking assessment of a game in a genre that you yourself stated is all about story. Not enough hooks in the first hour…poor thing.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      I recognize that I stopped playing quite early, so I completely understand the issue you may have with that. But I ask you this with no sarcasm: How many hours should I put in? It’s difficult to plow through this when I have Ys, a series I really dig, in tow. (Also, very limited time to waste on unappealing titles).

      • saintfighteraqua

        I liked Ys seven a lot too.
        Have you played FFVIII or IX? I think they are way better than VII in my personal opinion.

        • Tom Green

          I loved FFVIII… But why oh why did you have to keep recharging your spells? I think having a mana pool is a lot better but that’s just me. Did anyone play FF Legend II on the gameboy? Every weapon could only be used a certain amount of times much like the spells in FFVIII. I was not happy when my Excalibur sword ran out of uses and only then did I find out there wasn’t another one in the game.

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          No, sir, I didn’t play VIII or VIII, but I have heard good things! Maybe I’ll add em to the queue.

      • spacexgost

        At the end of that day, that is an unfair comparison because FF7 didn’t have the hardware support that a game like Ys has. The only adequate comparison is the story and IMO, most games today don’t measure up. If you had only played the first 10 percent of Xenogears, you would have missed out on a great ride. It is just how games were made back then.

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          I’ve played Contra and Baseball Stars more times in the past year than many contemporary games. Plus, Xenogears opening hours were interesting. Fun + interest overrides ho-hum and non-interest.

      • Adam Sams

        It’s not a matter of how many hours, and I honestly don’t mind you didn’t like Final Fantasy, but if your going for a journalism approach, you should probably suffer through till the credits roll at the end.

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          That’s a fair criticism. Mind you, this is the second time I’ve tried playing the game. I got it shortly after the original release and went further than I did this time around. The first time I absolutely hated it. So much so I dont even remember much of the story. This time around, I gained some respect for it, but I thought it was too mediocre to keep playing.

      • Amilee

        Honestly, I think you should at least get past the intro part of the game (which, imo, is the entirety of Midgar) before judging it. Regardless of whether you’ve played the game in the past or not. That’s sort of like playing the first few hours of Silent Hill 2, then complaining that it’s a dull game where nothing happens. Not every game is going to have an action-packed or interesting beginning. Especially not a game that is as long as FFVII. Because it is generally a 30-50 hour game on a basic playthrough, so those first few hours barely even count since their main intention is to introduce you to the world and get you used to the gameplay. The story itself doesn’t really begin until you at least reach Kalm.

  • http://thechatcast.com/ Davis Emmanuel

    This this a million times this.

  • http://twitter.com/LowBitLovecraft Justin Pereira

    I have a theory that you wrote this entire article just for an excuse to compare FF7 to Vanilla Ice.
    Which is brilliant.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      I put my old man knowledge to use whenever I can!

  • EvanG

    Final Fantasy VII (although personally I felt it was pretty damn good when it came out), doesnt come close to the other classic JRPG behemoths out there (like Chrono Trigger and Xenogears). Both of those games were overshadowed by FFVII (incorrectly IMO). You should give Xenogears a go if you feel like it. Its probably 20,000 times better than FFVII.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Chrono Trigger is an all-time top 10 game for me. I invested lots of time and money for it–75 bucks! Awesome stories and character. I also played Xenogears. There were a couple of annoying parts, but I dug it a lot.

  • Tom Green

    The thing that made FFVII great for me were the secret bosses and the Knights of the Round materia. They were over the top and gave you a quite a sense of accomplishment for finding them, let alone beating them. I wish overpowered secret bosses and the equipment needed to beat them were more of a mainstay in RPG’s to be honest.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Are there other games that used a similar technique?

      • Adam Sams

        Secret Bosses in FF12 where insane.

  • Richie

    Mmmm, how could you know anything about the repetitive summon scenes when the first summon isnt even obtained until after Midgar. Nor any sort of party control, materia management or a million other aspects of this game that dont kick in until you leave the BEGINNING of the game. This is a blatant attempt at gaining attention for an article by using a conterversial title slating such a major, well loved game by somebody who couldn’t even bother putting the effort in to really play it. Midgar isnt even into the double digits. If somebody who did a decent attempt(gold saucer, temple of ancients area) wrote an article outling their reasons I would respect and debate them. This is writing of the most abhorrent type, cheap shots at something they know will get attention just to garner a reputation. Well job done, FF7 may not be the greatest game but your opinion matters less than a three year old child trying on their fathers shoes.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      This is not a cheap shot. Read the first article I wrote which was far less negative. It’s linked in the beginning. I was going to chronicle my experience with the game, but I realized that I simply could not play through it. OK, you’re right about the summons–I meant to say the various spells/attacks that you use in combat (like healing and such).

      • Richie

        Eh no, ya cant answer a comment about something by saying ‘read the first article’. If you going to criticise something then you better have the material to back it up. In my opinion you have absolutely no right to make any sort of judgment about something you barely know. Maybe choose a less offensive title cause this is just a shameless attempt at grabbing attention of those who value something. This game was by no means my favourite game ever but I have enough respect for people not to make such a claim without the ammunition to back it up. Learn from this, sensationalism has been the end of many a decent writer. And the spells last like couple of seconds, by making a deal of those you are challenging the rpg genre as a whole, and I really wouldnt go there

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          “A less offensive title”? That right there shows that maybe some gamers are a little…..zealous in their devotion. Honestly, it’s was by no means an attempt to simply grab traffic.Everyone I know was excited about the PS Vita release, and since I was looking fort a new game to play, I decided to chronicle by (very short) time with it. We’ve done several “dairy” type stories here. That is all. Nothing about it interested me enough to continue…why force myself. In both pieces, however, I did say I respected it for what it did in terms of technology and pushing the RPG genre forward. Besides, it’s just an opinion! PS: Ys 7 is f’n great!

          • Gist

            Sensationalism, for hits, pure and simple.

            Heed the young man’s words above and rise above this type of “journalism”.

          • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

            Not so. Half the time I write about games that cater to niche audiences. And that’s very much OK. I’m in the midst of penning a piece about the importance of SNK. I love games! Other times, I like to re-experience old games that I didn’t like to see if my tastes have changed over the years. Sometimes, yes! I love point-and-click adventure games now more than I did 15 years ago. FF 7 just happens to be a hot button title that brings out fiery passion. My Vita library was a bit thin, so I decided to check it out again. I hope those who have the pitchforks and torches are as passionate about their politics, world events, families, and friends. This is just a game, folks.

          • http://www.facebook.com/MythrilJenova Jas Flora

            That would require that some journalism be done. All he did was revisit a game he obviously did not like to begin with and say “Meh” then write an article stating it is not what you think it is.

          • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

            You are 100% correct. The thing is, everyone was said that I should play it begin. Sometimes tastes change over time. I tried, didn’t care for it, so I put it down. This is not an attack on your or your gaming habits.

        • http://twitter.com/LowBitLovecraft Justin Pereira

          Jeffrey’s next article:

          Final Fantasy 7: The Perfect Game. I’m So Sorry. I Didn’t Realize You Were All Crazy. Please Give Me Back My Dog

    • Platomaker

      I thought the first sentence stated “re-experience”, From that it’s assumed he played it before, only this time he didn’t get too far.

      • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

        THIS.

  • Alex

    What a Load of Crap article.That’s like judging a movie after seeing the opening scene.

    You don’t deserve a website.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Apparently you haven’t seen a Syfy Channel original ;) Plus, tell me how long am supposed to play FF VII before the greatness kicks in? 90 minutes? 2 hours? Those are the length of most movies, just to keep going with your analogy.

  • Aaron

    I kind of agree I recently played final fantasy 7 for the fist time I went in with high hopes based on how amazing everyone made it sound but was very disappointed. The story was weak the characters were hard to relate to the only character I did like was killed off extremely early and I feel like there were way to many cut scenes that personally I felt were irrelevant. Personally I think sephiroth is way to overrated everyone makes it seem like he is the most badass villain but he didn’t stand out like some other final fantasy villains have.

  • Luther

    I don’t mean no disrespect toward FFVII nor toward the Final Fantasy community but I would like to share my story to you guys to make you understand why I support the viewpoint of this article.

    I recently bought FFVII for PC. I had never ever played a FF before — save from Chrystal Chronicles on Gamecube and another CC on the DS — except from playing a little of FFX when a friend of my brother lent him the game and his PlayStation 2: some of you might have already understood that my gaming habits belong to Nintendo by then. But just as much, this statement makes it clear that I can cope with the graphics of FFVII, also because I do understand that it was the first Final Fantasy in 3D, released on the first PlayStation.

    And so here I was told over and over that this was the best Final Fantasy game ever, that if I had to play a FF it HAD to be that one… And I have to admit that having only owned Nintendo consoles, not being able to play a core Final Fantasy game had always been my greatest regret when it came to the PlayStation brand.

    I was also made to understand that FFVII was the PS equivalent to Zelda OoT for Nintendo… And here is where I would like to start arguing against the hype of FFVII: because from this standpoint, this game compares in NOTHING to the epicness of Ocarina of Time.

    First and foremost: there is ABSOLUTELY no challenge, gameplay-wise. During 99% of my battles, I only had to tap on “X-X-X-X-X” over and over again to make it through. It’s only when it came to boss battles that I had to sort of think and act strategically, but EVEN THEN, I still haven’t lost any battle in the game, whatsoever. The only enemy I had a hard time with was that huge snake (which I later learned that I had to avoid) and EVEN IT didn’t beat the crap out of me: I actually was about to take him down until he threw away my Aeris, and then killed Cloud and Barret thanks to a over-1000 damage attack.

    I believe I have made it clear by now how unchallenging that game turned out to be. But maybe that’s because I am used to painstaking challenges such as the very first Super Mario Bros. and the very first Super Mario Land; I don’t know.

    Now when it comes to the story… I have to admit that I was incredibly impressed. Right at the beginning of the game, I really felt caught in the motion, and the graphics did not matter at all thanks to the staging and to the ambiance that rightfully acclaimed composer Uematsu Nobuo created. But here comes another issue: this game is ALL story. The plot does deserve credit for being so refined, but the toll that it puts on actually PLAYING the game is, in my very own opinion, unacceptable. For I do believe this is called a video game, and not a “game video.”

    Therefore, for its era this game is an outstanding feat of animation. But when less than 50% of the game is allocated to the thrill of actual playing, I believe I am in my own right to be confused as to how to appreciate such video game.

    Just like Jeffery L. Wilson, I left Midgar, played a few 10 hours afterwards, and now I no longer feel the fuel of playing and enjoying this game, no matter how much I wish to finish it in order to be able to argue with your community in a way that allows me to be rightfully respected. But this experience has enlightened me on one point: on why there is so much hatred between so-called Nintendo and PS360 fans.

    Please understand that we do not play video games the same way. When you guys play in order to be mind-blown, we play to have fun, and that is all. When you guys first want to beat a game, we want to make sure that this game will truly be challenging in terms of gameplay, from the beginning to the very end. And I believe these schools are two faces of the same coin, and should both be valued equivalent. However, just like on the Nintendo side we have to understand our own limitations when it comes to graphics and seriousness — which are on their way be overcome — it would be nice if the PS360 community could understand, through one of their cornerstone games, the limitations that they too have to overcome.

    Thank you for your attention, and I hope you will understand me not responding unless I am faced with an equally lengthy and constructed argument. :)

    • platomaker

      Play FF6 on the super nintendo. Superior to FF7.

      • Adam Sams

        In every way too. FF6 is the pinnacle of the FF series.

        • Luther

          Oh OK, I should check it out. My little bro was playing another FF, which was a remake of an older NES or SNES Final Fantasy on the DS — I think it was FFIV, it’s the one where you have to use that Dragon Jump attack with everyone to defeat a boss or else you’re f***ed –, and this one was like so hard I’m not even sure he finished it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004047436033 James Wames

    Final Fantasy 4, 6, and 7 are three of the best RPG’s EVER. End of story.

  • http://twitter.com/flossa FLOSSA

    To be honest, I think you need to invest at least a good 8 hours+ into FFVII to really get hooked by the story. Not a criticism, just what I’ve found. Then again, who honestly has time for that anymore… it was all well and good as a teen or a child to spend block hours devoted to video games but as you get older the drive/availability isn’t there anymore.

    Also, I think it’s a hard game for non-Final Fantasy fans to pick up and get into. It’s not a game that gives you instant gratification, but one that unravels like an onion as you take it apart piece by piece.
    Some people prefer other FF games, too, so it’s a matter of opinion. I don’t think, however, quitting right after Midgar really gives you a fair perspective on the game or it’s storyline which you do criticise. It’s a muti layered FASCINATING story IMO involving terrorism, environmentalism, magic, deceit, economics, prostitution, memory and manipulation.
    I first played the game in 1997 when I was thirteen, all the way through. I’ve replayed it fully 3 times since and at 27 I still get enjoyment out of the story & character development.

    All of this aside, it’s fair to say that it doesn’t appeal to everyone. My boyfriend is just not into RPGs despite playing FFVII as a child also, and I do agree there is probably a fair amount of rose-tinted glasses with respect to older games. I remember games like Double Dragon fondly but wouldn’t ever replay them now.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Thank you for such a balanced response. 10 years ago I wouldve plowed through this. Now? Too many games and not enough time.

      • Josh Gordon

        Are you for real? Your talking about you have to many games… but you decide 2 buy a PS1 RPG…. Are you that stupid? What did you expect to get from playing final fantasy 7, Articles like this are a joke.

        • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

          Context, sir. No time for ho hum games when there are too many solid ones.

          • Josh Gordon

            You need 2 quit making articles because your not good at it. Who the hell give you the power 2 create articles?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bartholomew.mcfarland Bartholomew McFarland

    7 is a horrible game to play for me nowadays. I have played through it 3 times and there is no way it could be fun anymore. I have done everything in the game, and now that the veil of FF has been lifted from my eyes I can see the flaws as I play the game and it is not fun anymore. Maybe I would have seen these flaws if I was not infatuated from the beginning. I typed all of this to help you justify your point of playing just past Midgar. I love Final Fantasy 7, but never again will I be able to dress up as a girl to save Tifa. Never again do I want to see a Midgar Zolom pierced through a tree, knowingly at the hands of Sephiroth. It’s just boring to me now. I understand that you might feel like this on you first play through or lack thereof, and I’m certainly not going to wrench your nuts about it. It’s just a game like every other. Play YS good sir and enjoy yourself. You do not have to prove your worthiness to a bunch of avatars.

  • Seb

    This is simply an article of opinion, fans of the game should really not get worked up about this. I admit, stopping to play the game at just exiting Midgar is too premature for a solid statement but a statement it is nontheless. If the game dosent draw him, it does not mean there is something wrong with either the game or his point of view. We all have different tastes, take me for example: I bought Dragon’s Dogma because Ive heard its a great game but I am also having a hard time pressing on since combat alone does not ‘hook me’.

    Pardon me writer, though I respect the article, it does lack fact on why you think its not to make a solid argument but I still respect your point of view.

    All and all, to each their own.

  • Gil

    And this folks is how you make a popular article.

    Think of popular game that everyone loves, talk about how horrible it is.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Not so. It’s the second entry in my attempt to replay the game, sir. I havent touched it since it hit retail in 97. I HATED it then. I respect it now for it’s place in history. And the entire Honeybee sequence is comedy gold in the best possible way!

    • tag

      I thinking about take care of age tec armored core series next i tried their title’s
      armored core 4 and including from ps2 games like the AC 2 anather age i thinking
      put something outstanding put primary weapon’s age tec heavan’t done that yet
      for AC series these weapons going to be big i mean big which is going to take a lot
      of energy worth of blast and have these AC’s bigger and wider that fan’s could carry
      big primary weapon’s on the arm or shoulder put bigger generator’s and write about
      their graphic’s in the background.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brylon.shockley Brylon Shockley

    Lame attempt to get traffic.

  • Chaos Raiden

    Please respect the author of this post since his opinion varies with other people. Not all people meant to like a certain game at the same time. Everyone has different tastes in games, and people should respect that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christos.lenis Christos Lenis

    Don’t worry,it’s absolutely normal,FFVII in’t appreciated by everybody,only from gamers.
    Now go play some COD or even better Kinectimals.

    • http://www.2d-x.com Jeffrey L. Wilson

      I’ll say that FFVII is better than most FPS games, sir. My leanings are point-and-click adventure games, stealth, fighters, action-RPGs (like Ys!), bullet-hell shmups.

  • Justin

    this article is so disappointing I stopped reading it

    • http://www.2d-x.com Jeffrey L. Wilson

      It’s unfortunate that the article was so dull in the opening sentences. I hope that you can find one more to your liking.

  • Derek

    article so disappointingly pointless I decided to never read anything from this site again, thank you for a pointless opinion that accomplishes nothing much like this post which I hope you read so we each are equal in wasting each others time

    • http://www.2d-x.com Jeffrey L. Wilson

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

  • Caught onto your game

    This is such a shameless article to grab hits. While reading it I felt every sentence was basically saying, “Please get people to come to this website to because of this ‘controversial’ article.”

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Actually, the intent, truthfully, was a multi-post running diary. What you’re reading now is part II. Here’s part I: (http://www.2d-x.com/final-fantasy-vii-on-ps-vita-is-a-glorious-mess/). I have such a stockpile of Vita games that I can’t waste any more time giving a second chance to a game that i disliked 15 years ago just to see if my opinion changed. But It has! A bit. I now RESPECT it. I just don’t like it.

  • http://twitter.com/wishingW3L WEL

    I played FF7 for the first time in my life in 2010 after FF13 and now it is one of my favorite games ever and beat it at least once every year. You haven’t even seen Sephiroth once!

    I once dropped FF7 because of Midgar too but that was a huge mistake. You really have no idea what you’re missing on.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      The first sentence says that I’m re-experiencing the game. I have played relatively deep into Final Fantasy VII before.

  • http://twitter.com/CapJSheridan Rafael Monteiro

    I don’t think you know what a good game is

  • http://twitter.com/Xander756 Alex Hinkley

    Sounds like you’ve been groomed by noobish fast-paced games like “action RPGs” and first-person shooters so that you no longer have the patience to play a real game which focuses on story first. This is why they don’t make turn-based RPGs anymore and it is truly a sad state of affairs.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Where is this FPS talk coming from? I’m a notorious FPS -hater-. The only shooters I like as a whole are shmups. As for turn-based RPGs, Chrono Trigger may be my all time favorite game. That’s near-video game perfection. I also like old school point and click adventure games like Gabriel Knight and Resonance.

    • ariessiren

      ive played some pretty deep action rpg’s that i prefer over turn based. dont insult other genres thinking turn based is the be all end all of rpg’s. in your quest to comment, all you did was insult other genres. if its a good game, then its a good game alex. get off your high horse and come off it. he has a right to his opinion. everyone does at least he doesnt act like a 10 year old like you did

  • mav805

    I have to say that I agree with the author’s conclusion if not for the same reasons. FFVII was the reason I bought a PS back in the day, but I’ve never liked it at all. The story is mediocre, I don’t care for the characters, which includes two of the most obnoxious characters of all time, Cid and Barret, and Sephiroth is the most over rated villain of all time. He does nothing but laugh or cry the entire game, and then summons a meteor…how villainous. Someone like Ghaleon from the LUNAR series for Sega CD was by leaps and bounds a better villain than Sephiroth…

    However, I did love the Golden Saucer and Chocobo raising, so it wasn’t all bad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cameron-Cintron/100000142017028 Cameron Cintron

    Sorry guy, playing through the game right now on my Vita to re-experience it and i cant seem to put it down, 25+ hours into the game atm

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cameron-Cintron/100000142017028 Cameron Cintron

    Actually, I’m writing a paper on why the story is the most rewarding quality of FF VII for a class.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Which class is this? I assume English, but in any specific area?

  • lisa forresst

    burn your computer and never pick up a traditional jrpg again. It’s not your judgement that sucks, its your reasoning and journalism that makes me want to punch a baby.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      But Lisa….I want to play Chrono Trigger again :(

  • Tyler

    I mean…the game came out 10+years ago developers can be more creative with their games thanks to advanced technology. Final Fantasy VII at the time was a incredible achievement in 3-D RPG and the beginning of 3d rpg era. This game now is nostalgic; this article (“though you keep telling people you’re re-experiencing it) seems like you’re playing it like it JUST came out. It’s impossible to say this game battle system is repetitive without saying ANY rpg game isn’t….hell, pokemon been getting superb reviews and it’s battle system barely even changed. Simple menus…..bruh the game came out ’97 when Diddy and Mase were rocking shiny bubble suits in music videos! I don’t think any game back then had a menu with visual aesthetics.Basically to sum this up; playing a old game after so many years will not have the same “wow” effect. All you can simply do is appreciate the memories of first playing it and allowing it to be nostalgic. Lol you knew what you were doing trolling with this article….no you didn’t upset FF VII fans just you gotta understand logically…you can’t expect a old game to be innovative presently in 2012. It’ll be bias of you to say in response ” oh but I like this (insert a old game name) …it’s a classic..and it hasn’t dull over the ages too!” bro just get a sandwich,some warm tea…and just reflect whether or not you can change your opinion on a game with outdated snowboarding mini,date scenes,and a big ass low poly snake chasing you and your chocobo around

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      I agree for the most part. Except that I actually respect FFVII more now than back then in terms of historical context. I’d still rather play something else. Which I am: Ys Seven, Retro City Rampage, and Ragnarok Odyssey. There are plenty of games for which I have nostalgic love that are pretty lacking by today’s standards (Ikari Warriors, Simpson’s arcade beat em up, Fatal Fury Special). But others are timeless in their simplicity and fun factor (Mrs. Pac-Man, Tetris, Baseball Stars NES). Game on, man! As for the menus, I wasn’t talking about their look ;)

  • Jayceon

    I read this article and I was prepared to listen to you say you don’t like FFVII, which is fine, however, you say that you think the storyline is ”average”, ”bad” and there is a ”lack of hooks”.

    Could you please list a game with a storyline you think is ”good” ? I’d be very interested to see your answer.

    See, FFVII is without a shadow of a doubt, by far, the deepest, most intriguing storyline ever created in a videogame. It has taken countless video-game spin-offs, movie spin-offs and novels (e.g The Maiden Who Travels the planet) to present the entire story – That means, the story from before FFVII, to after FFVII.

    FFVII is a complete title on it’s own, however, hardcore fans have been able to digest and delve deeper into the storyline.

    You put the game down before you found Yuffie, or Red XIII, or Vincent. What were you thinking??? I actually feel sorry for you. You’re missing out on the best videogame experience of all time because you are a lazy gamer.

    Vincents backstory is probably one of the most important backstories in the entire game and you didn’t care for it. I feel you’d be better suited to a game like ”The Sims” because if you don’t care for story, you should probably make your own story.

    For those people who do love FFVII, please go to http://www.officialff7movement.com and sign the petition for a remake.

  • Doki

    This article reeks of someone writing about an issue solely to drive lots of traffic to their website.

  • DB_Kznu

    People need to stop jumping with pitchforks at anyone that dislikes FF VII. I finished the game, didn’t like it much. Found FF VI to be superior in every way to VII. The story of VII is not all that great, it’s cool, but not the ‘ohmygoditsthebeststoryebah’ some people portrays it to be. It’s not challenging either, Emerald and Ruby weren’t challenges to me when I was 12, breeding the golden chocobo is more boring than fun, just like the ‘combat arena’ (forgot the name) even with the random statuses and all. I never judge a game without finishing it, and that I’ll give to you guys, Jeffrey stopped the game too soon to post a solid article on it, but probably not too soon to simply dislike the game. Some games you like, others you dislike, people need to learn to live with people disliking games that they like.

  • Pablo Zero

    This article has a point, an opinion. The title maybe a little sensationalist, but you can’t criticise someone’s opinion. He didn’t like the game, just disagree and move on, this is why gaming isn’t taken seriously yet. You can’t criticise a game or platform without being attacked.

    I liked FFVII but it’s showing its age. Chrono Trigger and Illusion of Time are better experiences, but it’s a game I glad I played. I can see how it’d be difficult to get into now without the wow factor it had back in the day.

    It’s entertainment and people always have different opinions on things. If you like it, great. Others, however, will not. Doesn’t make your love of the game any less.

  • Youmustbeanidiot

    What a pathetic troll.

  • The Truth

    I was only able to get past the first few sentences of this article. Not because of the grammar, word choice or sentence structure, it just isn’t worthy of my time. I’ve heard it gets better, but I’m too big of a dumbass not to recognize a gem when I see one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.haik.3 Joseph Haik

    Reminds me of a friend I used to have who quit after an hour or so…he only liked sports games…ff7 best game ever for a single player game…quitting so early is like watching the opening credits of a movie and turning it off…

  • jerrific

    just want to say that I appreciate your professionalism. I’ve been reading through the comments, and you’ve been getting a lot of unnecessarily hateful responses. You’re ability to respond with candidness and respect is admirable.

  • Bah

    It lacks the same level of fun, complexity and immersion but we were younger and games were simpler then. Quite frankly, I’m getting a kick out of my 2nd playthru. (my first since ’97). I actually got chills the first time I summoned Ifrit, Leviathan and Neo Bahamut in over a decade. I actually stopped playing at the same time you did. But I came back, in part to hilarious parody comic called Final Fantasy: The Sevening. It’s an amazing homage that still manages to address most of your qualms with the much loved dinosaur that is FF7. I find the game still has nostalgic value and acceptable mechanics.

  • Cole

    There was no evidence in this article for why others should follow your thinking. All you said was “I tried it again and got bored.”. If we put down a game every time one person playing it got bored, we wouldn’t be playing anything. No one said you had to like it, but if your only reason for claiming it is a mediocre game is that you got bored then you might as well just leave that to yourself, because you have no evidence to support your claim.

  • aaronlif10

    i love final fantasy 7. it was one of my favorite games when it came out. as a game, it held a little spot in my heart, and still does. however, the game was amazing at the time because when i first played it, i had never experienced anything on that level before. since then, games have progressed. early memories sometimes become glorified when you look back on them later, even if they werent perfect. just like high school. looking back on those years of my life, its as though everything was perfect, and i was always happy and carefree. but when i really think long and hard about those days, it wasnt perfect and i wasnt always happy. people tend to remember the good and forget the negative. jeffrey isnt trying to bash the game for the sake of bashing it. he is simply expressing his personal opinion, and his personal experience. he stepped back into a game that back in 1997 was a technical masterpiece, but as he mentioned, had many parts that by today’s standards may come off as being corney, or wierd. the technical flare doesnt wow us anymore, like it did back then. while i enjoyed the corney and wierd moments, for others they may be off-putting. something enjoyed as teenagers, but under the very different tastes of an adult who has played 15 years of constantly advancing games since 1997, may not be so enjoyable, and had been forgotten for so long. we have grown used to games being very technicaly impressive and involving. alot has changed since final fantasy 7. i too have played it recently, and while i still enjoy it (mostly for the nostalgic reasons), if i was playing it for the first time now, i probably would not be as impressed as i had been 15 years ago. jeffrey has just as much right not to like a game, as he does to not like it. while not everyone may agree with his opinion, as adults, his opinion should be respected. there is no reason for gamers to be so hostile towards each other. if everyone simply had the exact same viewpoint, we would all pretty much just be robots. not very interesting. respect jeffrey and his opinion. like music that came out 30 years ago, if others dont feel interested in it because their tastes have changed, fine. that wont stop you from enjoying the things you loved years ago. if there was one thing i would like to see change in the gaming community, it would be for everyone to start showing each other a little more respect. i see alot of this hostility in the gaming community and it looks really bad. there is no need for it.

    • aaronlif10

      *as he does to like it

  • beasta

    This article is boring… LOL… FF7 don’t sucks on PSV.LMAO. This article is enough…

  • El Bicho Loco

    Don’t judge the poor fella. Not everyone is a true gamer.

  • MartinB105

    “I don’t care about the characters or their motivations.”

    I do, and FF7′s characters and story is one of it’s best aspects. The game draws you in and makes you want to find out what’s going to happen; the pacing is excellent.

    FF8 had characters that I didn’t care about, but FF7 was spot on.

  • JimmyO

    The Vita just isn’t a platform to play classic games on, especially ones that are require a lot of dedication. The Vita just doesn’t provide enough new features to make those games good for a rerun. Custom save-states (like almost any good emulator has) could have added a lot. Sony just don’t know what they are doing with it and that is why the device is considered a flop and was DOA from the get go.

  • ishinsai

    his just too spoiled to play FF7, cause he is already playing FF13 where the graphics are too good but the gameplay sucks. he may refer to chrono trigger but that was before he became too spoiled to play low graphic games now. lol XD i honestly think your opinion sucks cause you dont get to play the game that revolutionized the rpg system.

  • Jim Layhe

    What’s the matter Jeff??? Why didn’t you post my comment??? it’s amazing how an author has modding abilities to post what comments go up and what don’t. You suck. You suck at life and at games. Like I said before…. and I know you are reading this…. Playing Final Fantasy VII up to the point of Midgar is like me reading your article up to the point of you saying that you stopped playing after you got out of Midgar. You sir, are a pointless author, trying to get hits for this lame website…. sad world we live in… sad sad world…

    The shiticane has landed.

    • http://www.2D-X.com/ Jeffrey L. Wilson

      Two things, sir. One, I didn’t censor you. Every comment has gone through, unless you triggered one of the filter words which are words I wouldnt care to repeat here. Secondly, I -have- played Final Fantasy VII before. Back in ’97. I’ve replayed it, found it lacking, and moved on. That’s been stated several times, Mr. Layhe.

  • tag

    But first i got to get one of their titles AC 5 see how it goes.